HELLBOY screening weekend

Prince Charles Theatre, London

27th - 28th August, 2004

What follows is a series of recollections and impressions of the first official screening of HELLBOY in Britain, at the famous FrightFest Festival. I was lucky enough to be there, and these reports were originally written for my colleagues on the official movie message board - the world-famous HELLSITE. I have posted the reports here for those of you who can't access the site, so I hope you enjoy them. For me, it was the experience of a lifetime.

A few acknowledgements;

To Matthew Watson of London's FORBIDDEN PLANET store, who made us so very welcome.

To Anna Whelans of Columbia Tristar, who was a complete gem, great company, and very, VERY generous and kind. Thanks for all the info, Anna!

To Pat Paone, Val Abbott and son Adam, and last but by no means least, Nick. Such wonderful and hysterical company - and thanks, Nick, for introducing us to the works of Lord Dunsany. Astounding.

And finally, to the nicest, cuddliest and totally funky film director in the world, Mister Guillermo del Toro. When you've read the reports, you'll see why we love him so much. He's just so disgracefully adorable.

Helen 'Hellmistress' Chavez

Aberdeenshire, Scotland, September 2004

 

Friday, August 27th, 2004.

Flew down to London and checked into a very spartan but very nice little hotel in King's Cross, and met up with Pat in the afternoon. The weather - hot and very humid.

Guillermo del Toro (GdT) was signing at Forbidden Planet at 6pm - Pat and I were a tad late due to (ahem) getting a wee bitty lost on the underground ... a hot and breathless Pat and one very hot, sweaty and bright red Hellmistress (Yours Truly) stumbled into Forbidden Planet gasping for water like a man in a desert. 'Ice Cold in Alex' had nothing on us, I can tell you.

We were late - but it didn't matter, because who should come up the stairs from the book section but GdT himself, who spotted us and promptly hugged what was left of the breath out of us. "You look very hot!" he grinned, and all I could do was wheeze. The signing was about to start, so he gave us an even wider grin and said "Let's go for dinner after the signing!"

Gobsmacked, we just nodded dumbly and let the maestro get on with the job in hand. There was quite a queue! Anyway, we wandered off and looked at the costumes the store had on display, which were terrific, especially Rasputin's BEAUTIFUL gown. Gasp!! And then a wee wander around the books was followed by a young man approaching me and saying '"Excuse me - are you Helen?"

Now, I'm not accustomed to being approached by young men, and this one was delightful - nice and polite, and very respectful. It turned out he was Matthew Watson, manager of this 'ere joint, and we had been corresponding before the event after he asked me how tall Ron was (For the mannequin, he told me). Then we met Anna, a gorgeous lady from Columbia Tristar, who was very keen to keep us informed of all that was happening here in the UK to promote Hellboy. More on that later.

We chatted until I was approached by yet another charming young man (it was certainly my day!). This one turned out to be Nick (Pegana), who had started this whole daft adventure off in the first place, and we spent a happy hour or so waiting for GdT to finish with the signing (and he was having a whale of a time, from what we could see!). At long last the final happy punter exited the building gibbering cheerily, and Guillermo joined us.

"You guys hungry? Yeah? So let's go! I think the restaurant's around the corner!"

And so we all (Pat, Nick, Anna, a young Spanish director Jaime Alonso de Linaje and myself) trooped dutifully out of the door onto a sunny Shaftesbury Avenue, followed by famous Mexican director Guillermo del Toro carrying a Hellboy bust (I think) in a box on one shoulder.

We tootled along the pavement followed by a few stares (either because they knew who GdT was or they thought we were the Weird Bunch) and hit the restaurant. We waited as Anna went to find out about our table, and GdT looked around. The decision was made.

"Too noisy! We can't talk! Let's go across the road!"

Our little 'crocodile' turned around and trooped across the road to a really gorgeous little Chinese restaurant where they quickly found us a table and we parked ourselves.

Jaime couldn't stay and eat as he had to return to the cinema and prepare for his film, The Hermit's Lair, a 10 minute short, to be shown on the Sunday. But we talked to him for a while about his film, and it was obvious he was a HUGE admirer of Guillermo's. GdT was going to be at the screenings all day Sunday, so I hope Jaime's film was well-received.

Anna managed to keep company with us for quite a while, which was a real treat, and right now I must say thank you to Columbia Tristar for being such sweethearts to us. Anna was an absolute gem.

So, food was ordered, including lots of fried seaweed (GdT - "I f****** LOVE this stuff!"), sharksfin soup and some absolutely delicious mango chicken. I can't remember what everyone else ordered. The whole thing was so surreal that my brain seized up.

Right - that's it until I get the next bit in some sort of order.

Check in soon for the next exciting installment, when we talk about Lord Dunsany, the films of Anthony Mann, At The Mountains of Madness, farts, Pan's Labyrinth, Ray Harryhausen, the sinister advent of Nutrasweet and - of course - HELLBOY 2.

Signing off,

HM

.... and so, onto dinner-time chat.

This is not in any particular order - I'm just jotting it down as I remember it, and I'll wait until Pegana's PC is working properly again and let him tell you all about the comic book stuff. I was 'way out of my depth.

Okay - here we go.

HELLBOY. *SPOILERS for those who ain't seen it*!!!!!!!!

I told GdT about some of my favourite bits of the film, one of which was the subway scene when Hellboy beats the crap out of Sammy, who promptly gets flattened by the train. I was fascinated by the workings of the Right Hand of Doom and I mentioned the little wrist-twist HB does before he returns the kittens. Apparently that was originally intended to have CG added, and showed HB unwrapping the remnants of Sammael's tongue. But GdT loved the movement so much he left it the way it was.

GdT also mentioned why David Hyde Pierce isn't credited with Abe's voice. So, finally here's the truth. David didn't want ANY credit for a role that he saw as being Doug Jones', and he sure as hell didn't want to 'rain on Dougie's parade'. I replied that the lack of crediting has caused a little confusion amongst film-goers who recognise DHP's voice and think it's him playing Abe physically, then read Doug's name on the credits.

He also said what a complete gentleman Doug is - and that he knew how bloody and scraped Doug was after that scene upside down in the tank, filmed on his birthday (May 24th, 2003). GdT had played monsters under prosthetics himself, so was well aware of the discomfort involved.

Guillermo was also surprised to see how popular Ilsa and Kroenen appeared to be, even down to the fact that there is porn fic out there about them. That caused a bit of eyebrow-woggling, I can tell you !!!

In Ron's commentary he talks about how he struggled to get the shirtless scene done - GdT had wanted him to play it in a shirt. Well, GdT talked of that too, and said that Ron remembers a different aspect of the scene. Broom's death scene was filmed the same day, and then Ron and Selma were to film the library scene. It had been originally scripted to be done shirtless, but because of time restrictions it meant that Ron would be doing the scene in a shirt rather than put on the heavy and time-consuming body prosthetics. Ron said he didn't mind coming in early to get the scene done shirtless, and just put a shirt on over the body prosthetics for the death scene. Does that make sense?

Also, the death scene figures in another couple of stories -

GdT originally scripted HB to say "I wasn't here" as he cradled Broom's body, but then he realised that HB was 'verbalising' too much - because in HB's next scene he's telling Liz about how he wished he could 'change all this', his hand gesturing at his demonic features (a beautiful scene, by the way, and so sensitively done by Ron). All the way through the film HB has been a big, inarticulate lug who can't even look at the girl he loves, and then he's suddenly verbalising his feelings to all and sundry? So GdT had the line from the death scene cut.

And now, the requisite John Hurt story. I hope it's okay to tell this one, and I hope I get the words right.

GdT was sitting watching the scene unfold ... Ron falling to his knees, cradling the limp body of John in his arms, mourning the loss of a father ... and through the earphones GdT hears a distinct 'bbrrp ... bbrrp'. Yells "Who the f*** has a cell phone???"

Then comes John's very distinctive voice.

"I farted. Twice. He squeezed me too tight and I'm NOT going to apologise, so there!"

Nicknames. Selma? Monkeybrain. Rupert? Agent Piles, or, as John kept saying 'There are things that go bump in the night, Ancient Miles ..."

Jeffrey Tambor??

#When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's Tambore ...#

Next ... Pan's Labyrinth.

HM

 

As already reported, HB2 will not have Myers - and I'm sad about that, because Rupert is so good in the role, but there is a reason for it. The love triangle had already played out in the first film. They need something else to put the edge on the film, and this is the introduction of a new agent. 'Nuff said for now.

The location will be Europe, but not Prague, as the costs have spiralled over the past year or two. I suggested Rumania, but GdT said that while the locations etc are terrific, the crew base is small and a film can be left hanging if more than one project is on the go at the same time. No reflection AT ALL on the artisans who work on the films - there are just so few of them.

Kroenen for HB3. Johann for HB2, and no LJ. I don't expect Roger will EVER make it to film (That's MY impression, not from GdT). Nothing new here.

Budget - as already hinted at, probably around $60-70 million.

A LOT more Abe. That's all I want to say at the moment.

The script is well in hand, and incidentally, the films are NOT taking Mike [Mignola] away from doing more HB comics. He's busy re-doing The Island.

At The Mountains of Madness may come before HB2, and Ron IS in it, playing McTighe [EDIT - this is incorrect, and your roving reporter should wash her ears out more often. The character Ron plays is an amalgam of two characters from the Lovecraft story].

There is to be a director's cut of MIMIC - still not the film GdT wanted it to be, but an improvement. He was very voluble about the 'false scares' in MIMIC as it stands - they drive him nuts, so that will be sorted out. He talked about the wonderful designs by TyRuben Ellingson of 'Long John', and incidentally we spoke of the beautiful work done on HB by Spectral Motion on the maquettes, as I babbled long and loud about the glorious Abe maquette that would - if I could possibly wangle it by means of blackmail, bribery or plain theft - grace my office shelf.

Pan's Labyrinth. GdT is heading back to Spain, and has got himself a wee apartment. He shifted some of his books there from his home library, so now when he's home he can put some of the piles he has on the floor onto the shelves!! He has around 15,000 books, a 'shit-load' of comics, artwork, and the library in HB is very like his own only his is a lot smaller with no fish-guy in a tank.

We spent AGES talking about books, and I am now desperate to go to Prague as GdT says it's the best place in the world for second-hand-book stores. He loves 'em, and he tries to really look after his books.

Oh yeah - he really wanted to go with the Struzan poster.

Next - PAN'S LABYRINTH for sure.

HM

Anyway, PAN'S LABYRINTH.

Originally planned to be set in England in an eerie old house, GdT wasn't happy with the concept and changed both the setting and the story.

There is a child and a satyr, and, of course, a labyrinth. It will now be set in Spain, 1944, and set against the background of the aftermath of the Spanish Civil War. It is magic woven into reality ... a strange world of beasts and myth interwoven with a bitter, chilling world given much to violence and hatred, it is both sensually idyllic and eerily threatening. When Guillermo spoke of it his face was lost in the wonder of the story, and, I have to admit, so were we. It is beautiful and dangerous, but I don't want to say any more. Suffice to say it sounds mesmeric.

I think he said shooting begins in January, and I can guarantee that with Guillermo Navarro's astounding photography it will be a gorgeous thing to gaze upon.

HM

Mmmm ... algae.

As we scattered algae all over our food, the table and our clothes, conversation was hot.

Favourite films and genres were discussed, and GdT mentioned something that bugged us too - the need for film-makers to constantly explain who their characters are. He mentioned Cary Grant's character in Notorious - you KNOW he's a secret agent, he doesn't need 15 minutes of screen time to explain why he became one. It's a dumbing down of the medium and it's ANNOYING. It holds up the pace, and it treats audiences like idiots.

We discussed great movie makers such as John Ford and my own fave western director Anthony Mann - brilliantly observed scenes, edgy and spartan, yet wonderfully succinct. We talked about Blade Runner and Rutger Hauer's famous speech -

"I've seen things you wouldn't believe - attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion ... I've seen C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate" ... and so on. Incidentally, I just had a thought. The scene of HB standing in the rain watching Broom's funeral. It echoes that very speech - (and I'm paraphrasing here)

"All these memories gone forever ... like tears in rain ..."

Oh yes, Ray Harryhausen. GdT visited him once, here in the UK, and told us about all of the wonderful models RH still has of all his creations. I said the dancing Kali from The Golden Voyage of Sinbad was my fave ... GdT said it was Talos, from Jason and the Argonauts. Neat.

Blade II:

Ron's famous line about "Well, as my dad said to my mom just before he killed her" ... and so on. Ron came onto the set that morning and told GdT he'd thought of a line, but that GdT would probably hate it. All I can say is thank Gawd GdT didn't because it's a great line.

Regarding Ron:

We discussed his films and his wonderful talent, especially his outstanding performance in Name of the Rose. GdT recommended the new French DVD release - a 2-disker.

And finally, regarding Nutrasweet. GdT told us it causes short term memory loss. So, there ya go. Huh????

There are no pictures, though. By common concensus we decided we would take no pictures and ask for no autographs. It was just a meal with friends, and although you guys weren't present, we knew you were there in our hearts. We missed you all.

There is more to come regarding the screening the following day, and I'll get to that soon, but I must say this.

Mr del Toro, you are a gem, a sweetheart and a truly wonderful and generous human being. You shared your thoughts and plans with us, laughed with us, hugged us and fed us algae. I will never be able to look at algae again without thinking of you.

Thank you.

HM

PS - forgot. Thank you (and your very kind driver) very much for the lift back to our hotel. One day, when I become rich and famous, I too would like a Mercedes with a TV in it.


Saturday, August 28th, 2004.

Leicester Place is just off Leicester Square, and on a Saturday night it is just HEAVING with young 'uns out on the razzle, enjoying the warm evenings. This time it was also full of people out to see the newest demon on the block ... HELLBOY.

Amongst this crowd of FrightFest fans, comic-book nerds and those of the cinema-going public who were just plain nosey, was a little gaggle of Hellboarders - Pat (Valaria), Nick (Pegana), Val (Nosferatu), Adam (Shinzon) and me, the ol' Scottish lady, the Hellmistress.

We were early - the film didn't start until 9pm, and so we parked our bums on the wall and watched the world go by. I soon got bored and began accosting passers-by, demanding to know if they were Hellboy fans. Unsurprisingly, after being fixed by the glinting, fanatical stare of a portly, middle-aged woman in a Hellboy teeshirt, most of them were.

Actually, the feedback I got was very positive - Hellboy was much awaited. We talked of GdT, Hellboy himself, Mr Ron Perlman, and answered (with patience and understanding) the perennial question about Abe's voice. Doug was HIGHLY praised by the one or two that I spoke to that had seen the film, and, of course, Ron was just BORN to play Big Red. Selma was definitely cute, and when I mentioned Rupert I got a number of 'Ohhhh, he's so SWEET!'

My one deviation from the subject was when I spotted a nice-looking gentleman wearing a DOOM 3 teeshirt, and I fixed him with my basilisk-like glare.

"DOOM 3!" I growled. "What do you know about it????"

He blinked.

"Ah ... I'm sorry?"

"The video game - the movie based on it - a friend of mine's in it, and we don't know anything about it - so tell me what you know!!" I continued, Dougie's next role very much in mind. The Wehrmacht has nothing on the Hellmistress when she's got the scent.

"Erm ... nothing really," he replied, somewhat abashed. "It's the only clean teeshirt I had."

I sighed.

"Well, you're no earthly use then, are you?"

He smiled apologetically.

"Um ... sorry about that."

But by then I had moved on to fresher prey, talking to a young couple hoping to get in to see the film by buying a returned ticket.

By the time we took our seats, the cinema was buzzing with anticipation. The announcer (the manager?) introduced the director of Hellboy, a gentleman by the name of Guillermo del Toro, and applause erupted as GdT took to the stage. He in turn introduced the rest of the guests - Ms Selma Blair, Agent Myers himself, Rupert Evans, 'the British Guy', and last but by no means least, Hellboy himself - Mister Ron Perlman. The whole cinema gasped. Ron ran down the side aisle and mock-tripped on his way up to the stage, instantly launching into his Jerry Lewis and saying he thought the name of the film was BELLBOY.

A few words were said, the film was introduced, and before we knew it we had launched into the film I had waited over 4 months to see again on the big screen. For 99% of the audience it was their first ever glimpse of the Big Red Guy, and I spent most of the film watching the audience reaction.

It was good. It was VERY good. They laughed in all the right places, the fights went down a hoot, and you could have heard a pin drop during Broom's death scene and funeral. Perfect.

By the time the lights went up, the audience was laughing and chatting, especially when they caught the little scene with Jeffrey halfway through the credits. HELLBOY was a hit.

So, into the Q&A next ...

HM

So, on with the tale ...

Actually, the Q&A was, sadly, very short. The reason? It was 11pm, another film was scheduled to begin at midnight, and everyone had to fit into one hour questions, pictures, autographs and everything else.

The first question - and I'll try to remember it in order, but I probably won't. I feel a nutrasweet moment coming on ...

A rather noisy and irritating gentleman behind me bullied his way into being noticed. He asked if the merchandising had been in mind when the film was being produced and had this been a factor in the creation of the film.

"We should be so lucky!" answered GdT. Instant hilarity. But he went on to mention the wonderful merchandise deals done with folks such as Sideshow, Mezco and so on. The HB merchandise is so bloody classy ...

The next question made us veterans groan - why was David Hyde Pierce uncredited as Abe's voice. So, GdT took a deep breath and went through the whole chestnut again and explained, very firmly and patiently, that David had no intentions of overshadowing Doug's wonderful performance as Abe, and hence was uncredited. That shut 'em up.

Ron, Selma and Rupert were asked why they had done Hellboy - Ron, completely deadpan, said he only did it for the money. I don't think anyone believed a word of it. Selma smiled shyly at Guillermo and told us she did it for him - he had asked her, and she had not hesitated in saying yes. Once Rupert stopped laughing, he had to agree.

Mr Noisy behind me whooped and hollered until he was noticed again (and the Hellmistress was sorely tempted to give him a stern glare), and asked something about comics - and for the life of me I can't remember what it was.

The last question brought the house down - Selma was asked who was the better kisser - Ron or Sarah Michelle Gellar. Ron never twitched a muscle, but Selma fell about. Once she got herself under control, she said she couldn't really choose between the two, but Ron wore more lipstick.

There were some crazy moments, and I remember Rupert being teased about his long hair, Selma convinced that he had extensions, and there were one or two comments about condoms and body parts which I won't go into, but it was certainly hilarious.

Afterwards they brought in tables and the signing commenced. Folks came down in rows. Time became very short and they limited the celebs to one item each and no pictures, so Pat and Val were only able to get pics during the Q&A. Never mind. There were some slight problems with stuff being taken off fans by staff to be given to the celebs to be signed, and then getting returned to the wrong people, but in general it worked out pretty well.

Ron began to sing. Loudly. A true baritone that carried well in the auditorium, we all listened, entranced ... then we heard a soft hum from the people around us ...

#Aye, aye, aye aye ...#

I took a picture I had had with me in L.A. (Typh's wonderful pic of Ron, GdT and Doug from the Grand Slam at Pasadena, I think) and Dougie had already signed it for me in March. I wanted Ron and GdT to sign it for me, and then I would put it back in its frame and hang it back in my office in the museum. However - things got a little weird. A few doodles and shrieks of (Selma) "Ohhh, my picture's not on there - I think I'll draw something!" to (Rupert) "Well, if THEY can draw something, so can I!", my picture looked somewhat different. It was all GdT's fault. He started it. Now look at it .

And I love it to BITS.

We wandered out, happy and bewildered, into the night, clutching our programmes and still trying to absorb the memories.

Well, that's it guys. Done and dusted. Finished.

Until the next time - and there WILL be a next time. A little birdie told me. Probably around 2006 ...

Oh yeah ... forgot. If you would like to see some pictures of the Question & Answer session, why not head over to The Perlman Pages?

HM

Over and out.